Did you ever stop to think what, exactly, you were ‘supposed’ to be accomplishing with your existence…? For that matter, did you ever even wonder why you felt that something was ‘supposed’ to be accomplished? I mean why is it that we, as intelligent (supposedly) creatures, even let ourselves think that certain activities are more noble than others? Is this really the case? I actually believe that this is the case; however I’ve begun to question the reasoning behind all this. I think that the only thing that anybody is ever actually able to strive for is happiness – anything else would be rather counter-productive … now, wouldn’t it?
Bottom line here is that we’re only going to exist for an extremely brief period of time. I vaguely remember hearing something about the entire existence of human beings thus far being pretty much inconsequential – something like a mere fraction of a second if the existence of the universe were compressed to a single, 24 hour day. If you then understand that the average lifespan is a mere fraction of total human existence, it becomes pretty clear that one human being’s existence is darn near close to nothing.
Interesting? Sure, I think so. Pretty much meaningless? Yep.
Why I believe this to be meaningless is pretty easy to explain. After all, the incredibly small ratio of human existence to complete existence in no way changes the fact that I exist. Although I am aware that my existence has a currently unknown expiration date, the fact of the matter remains that I do currently exist. Not only that, but I – being a true atheist – honestly believe that there will be nothing (at least for me) after I die. I have absolutely no delusions about any form of after-life. I can very easily remember what it was like to not exist – the few billion years that passed prior to my birth – and I can just as easily imagine what my non-existence will be like after my death.
Many people have decided to believe in one of the many many religions that have been created as a justification for their existence; however believing in set of rules in no way makes these rules valid. All it does is give people a completely irrational sense of superiority over anyone who chooses not to believe in that person’s chosen rule-set. The result of this ends up being justification for causing pain (and, more often than not, death) to fellow humans that happen to exist in the same time-frame that these believers do. This is absolutely asinine.
I’m lead to wonder what this world would be like if these religions were never created. What would the world be like if everybody understood that decisions made were only based on reality – if people understood that the only consequences they would ever have to face were going to be realized during their life – if the whole concept of owning up to one’s life in an effort to get accepted into a magical wonderland after one dies was seen as the nonsense that it actually is? Anarchy, perhaps? But why is that?
I suppose it’s just human nature. I find it rather interesting that, as humans, we so easily will turn on our neighbors in an effort to better our own lives. It’s a bit selfish, don’t you think? Or is it more of a sign of our ignorance? We are the self-proclaimed “most intelligent creatures on our planet” but is that actually the case? I’m reminded of what Douglas Adam’s wrote as the first paragraph of chapter 23 in his Hitchhiker’s Guide to the Galaxy book:
It is an important and popular fact that things are not always what they seem. For instance, on the planet Earth, man had always assumed that he was more intelligent than dolphins because he had achieved so much – the wheel, New York, wars and so on – whilst all the dolphins had ever done was muck about in the water having a good time. But conversely, the dolphins had always believed that they were far more intelligent than man – for precisely the same reasons.
Interesting, huh? Suppose the dolphins are correct. Wouldn’t we actually be much better off if everyone could just get along and try to enjoy what little time we are given? I really do think so. Sure, we wouldn’t have all the technological advances that we currently have but would we really need them? After all, you really wouldn’t miss them if they never actually existed…
The funny thing about it is that we would still have the desire to create. We seem to be unable to live in a world without trying to improve it. The flip-side to this, of course, is that we would actually be unable to live in this world without our creations – we have (as has been postulated in many sci-fi stories) become slaves to our own creations. What would you do if you were unable to go to the grocery store to get food? Suppose the electricity was no longer conveniently supplied… The water, the gas… The saddest part about these speculations is that I know what would happen – people would start to turn on their neighbors. The whole idea of “dog eat dog” would ring truer than ever and only the strongest will survive. Intellect will mean very little and pure strength would be king.
Am I saying that we need to throw away technology and return to a simpler time? Hell no – it’s far too late for that… Throwing away the religions, however, might not be a bad idea. We’ve accomplished so much as a species yet we seem to be completely unable to let go of these archaic belief systems that have become absolute truths to so many people. Why, exactly, is that? I believe it’s because many of us need a reason to live and these religions appear to give just that. The fact that all of these religions were created by man in an effort to control man just doesn’t seem to be acceptable to many.
My proposal to everyone is that we let go of these religions. Face the fact that we’re only going to be here for a rather limited time and try our best to get along. Let’s take some advice from the dolphins and learn to just muck about in the water (and on land – there’s one advantage that we do have) having a good time.
bis später,
Coriolis
Wednesday, January 24, 2007
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WELL PUT! WELL PUT! I AGREE WHOLE HEARTEDLY! TC
ReplyDeleteI really enjoyed that last statement as well,I sure hope that you,Glen with an "N" listen to your own words and live and enjoy your own life,it starts with your mind ,body and soul!!!!! enjoy your life, YOU, deserve it!.....................
ReplyDeleteHey thanks! So I guess some poeple ARE still reading these things...
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ReplyDelete“Did you ever stop to think what, exactly, you were ‘supposed’ to be accomplishing with your existence…? For that matter, did you ever even wonder why you felt that something was ‘supposed’ to be accomplished?”
As a matter of fact, yes, I have thought about what we’re supposed to accomplish in this life. The Bible is clear that we’re to bring glory to God. You see, God created all things with a plan—the created things are to bring Him glory.
I mean why is it that we, as intelligent (supposedly) creatures, even let ourselves think that certain activities are more noble than others?
We think that certain activities are nobler than others because God has put within us (as very intelligent beings) the ability to recognize and respond to truth. His truth makes it clear that some activities are nobler than others. For example, “Blessed is the man who is poor in spirit”—the one who recognizes that he is spiritually bankrupt apart from Christ. He is blessed because he comes to Christ with no merit of his own and trusts in the merit of Jesus Christ and His sacrifice.
I think that the only thing that anybody is ever actually able to strive for is happiness – anything else would be rather counter-productive … now, wouldn’t it?
Actually, God doesn’t even tell us to strive for happiness. He makes it clear that sometimes life brings profound sadness and difficulty. However, He also makes it clear that we can have an inner joy as His children that surpasses circumstantial happiness.
Why I believe this to be meaningless is pretty easy to explain. After all, the incredibly small ratio of human existence to complete existence in no way changes the fact that I exist. Although I am aware that my existence has a currently unknown expiration date, the fact of the matter remains that I do currently exist. Not only that, but I – being a true atheist – honestly believe that there will be nothing (at least for me) after I die. I have absolutely no delusions about any form of after-life.
You are right that life is meaningless from a human standpoint. Even the great King Solomon (a true historical figure) wrote about this meaninglessness in the book of Ecclesiastes. He entered into a grand experiment for meaning and satisfaction in life. He amassed wealth, he found great success, he had many women, he entered into massive and opulent building projects—but at the end of the day, he said it was all “a chasing after the wind—meaningless!” His conclusion was to fear God and keep His commands, for this is the whole duty of man.
I don’t really believe that you are a true atheist. You recognize that this existence of which you speak has come about and is overseen by a divine intelligent being, greater than ourselves. While you may choose not to believe in the God of the Bible, you know that a “god” must exist. In fact, your delusion is in thinking that there is no life after death. You will all too soon find out that there is an afterlife. And for those who reject God, it will be extremely unpleasant.
Many people have decided to believe in one of the many many religions that have been created as a justification for their existence; however believing in set of rules in no way makes these rules valid. All it does is give people a completely irrational sense of superiority over anyone who chooses not to believe in that person’s chosen rule-set. The result of this ends up being justification for causing pain (and, more often than not, death) to fellow humans that happen to exist in the same time-frame that these believers do. This is absolutely asinine.
In the grand scheme of things, there are not “many, many religions.” In fact, there is only one religion that believes in the God of the Bible Who created all things and Who, as Creator, had every right to require what He wanted of His created beings. While there are various interpretations of the finer points of Scripture, and thus different denominations, ultimately there is only one truth on those various matters. However, history bears out that religions were not created “as a justification for existence.” False religions were created in rebellion against God’s plan—that we follow Him and His Word and bring Him glory by trusting in Him alone. But I don’t think the false religions were trying to justify their existence—they merely wanted to find some answers to their meaningless lives, choosing to do it outside of God’s plan (much like you are doing by rejecting God altogether). In fact, much like you are doing, most thought up their religions in order to justify their rebellion against God and their sinful lifestyles.
Interestingly, even the Bible is not about believing in a set of rules. It’s about believing in a holy and just God Who requires punishment for our rebellion, but Who also loves us to the extent that He provided payment for us through His own sacrifice. It’s not about keeping rules—it’s about trusting God. Sadly, many have caused pain and even death in the name of a religion, but not because it was God’s plan—that is clearly outside of God’s plan for man.
What would the world be like if everybody understood that decisions made were only based on reality – if people understood that the only consequences they would ever have to face were going to be realized during their life – if the whole concept of owning up to one’s life in an effort to get accepted into a magical wonderland after one dies was seen as the nonsense that it actually is? Anarchy, perhaps? But why is that?
Look around you at what the world is like. That’s pretty much what it’s like when people think that the only consequence they would ever have to face is realized during their lifetime. That’s why we have so much pain, suffering and sin in this world. Most people don’t acknowledge God as their Judge. They live as if this is all there is.
You obviously place much faith in your assumptions about what takes place after death. You choose to reject the clear teaching of Scripture (God’s Word) about heaven and hell. But to say that a belief in life after death is “nonsense” is your unproven opinion. In fact, it takes the same amount of faith on your part to disbelieve in heaven as it does on another’s to believe in it. Neither can prove your point scientifically. You exercise great faith to believe in origins apart from a Creator. I exercise faith to believe in a Creator. But the origin of man cannot be proven scientifically either (i.e., it cannot be observed or repeated in a laboratory). What is “nonsense” to you, is truth to me. While each takes faith (yours in your own conclusions; mine in God’s Word), only one is true.
I suppose it’s just human nature. I find it rather interesting that, as humans, we so easily will turn on our neighbors in an effort to better our own lives. It’s a bit selfish, don’t you think? Or is it more of a sign of our ignorance? We are the self-proclaimed “most intelligent creatures on our planet” but is that actually the case? I’m reminded of what Douglas Adam’s wrote as the first paragraph of chapter 23 in his Hitchhiker’s Guide to the Galaxy book:
“It is an important and popular fact that things are not always what they seem. For instance, on the planet Earth, man had always assumed that he was more intelligent than dolphins because he had achieved so much – the wheel, New York, wars and so on – whilst all the dolphins had ever done was muck about in the water having a good time. But conversely, the dolphins had always believed that they were far more intelligent than man – for precisely the same reasons.”
Interesting, huh? Suppose the dolphins are correct. Wouldn’t we actually be much better off if everyone could just get along and try to enjoy what little time we are given? I really do think so. Sure, we wouldn’t have all the technological advances that we currently have but would we really need them? After all, you really wouldn’t miss them if they never actually existed…
Seriously, do you really think that we’d be better off mucking about in the water having a good time? Furthermore, do you think that the dolphins don’t attack each other and find trouble in their lives? Yet, I do believe that we’d be better off if everyone tried to get along and enjoy the time we have. But there’s a good reason why human beings don’t do that—it’s called sin. We all get that from our forefather, Adam. We’re born with it. I never had to teach my children to do wrong—it came naturally. That’s because we all have a sin nature. And until that’s removed by trusting in Christ’s sacrifice and accepting God’s forgiveness, we aren’t going to get along in this world. It’s a consequence of sin.
In fact, you elaborated on the sin nature very well when you said: The saddest part about these speculations is that I know what would happen – people would start to turn on their neighbors. The whole idea of “dog eat dog” would ring truer than ever and only the strongest will survive. Intellect will mean very little and pure strength would be king. You may not realize it, but you are articulating biblical truth when you recognize the inherent sin nature of mankind. That’s why we need a savior—we are dead spiritually and will always rebel against God’s way. We need Him to change us, to “save” us from the consequences of our sin.
(As for technology, yeah, we’d probably be better off without it in many ways. But then we wouldn’t be able to send these e-mails!)
Throwing away the religions, however, might not be a bad idea. We’ve accomplished so much as a species yet we seem to be completely unable to let go of these archaic belief systems that have become absolute truths to so many people.
It’s interesting that you recognize the anarchy that would result if we did not believe in a holy God and life after death, yet you propose throwing away religions, the very systems that generally teach that there are consequences outside of this life to our actions within this life. Now your just not making sense!
By the way, I agree with you that in the eternal span, human history is merely a fraction of a second. If that’s the case, then how can belief systems anywhere in human history be considered archaic? And are they archaic primarily because you say so? There are a large percentage of humans throughout history who would differ with you here.
Also, do you not believe in absolute truth? You seem to postulate your ideas as absolute. But you condemn anyone who believes differently and considers it absolute truth. Do you believe in absolutes? If so, then you know that it is impossible for conflicting ideas to both be absolute truth. Only one or neither is right. So you believe you are right—that you’re ideas are absolute truth. Does that then give you the right to condemn others who believe that their ideas are absolute truth and proclaim them to be so? Why is it ok for you to do this and not for those who believe differently?
We’ve accomplished so much as a species yet we seem to be completely unable to let go of these archaic belief systems that have become absolute truths to so many people. Why, exactly, is that? I believe it’s because many of us need a reason to live and these religions appear to give just that.
You said it yourself: life is meaningless. So it’s not a stretch to understand why people need a reason to live. The Bible gives clear and logical answers to the meaninglessness of life that everyone experiences. Why throw it out?
The fact that all of these religions were created by man in an effort to control man just doesn’t seem to be acceptable to many.
Now you’re contradicting yourself. First you said that these religions (non-specified, so I’m assuming this includes yours; and yes, your belief-system is a religion) were created by man to justify their existence. Now you say that they were created by man to control man. So which is it? The fact is that my beliefs (based on the Bible) are not given to control anyone. Yes, ultimately God is in control, whether we want to admit it or not. But I didn’t make that up. The Creator has every right to do with His creation as He wants. Thankfully, He desired to redeem a rebellious race (human) and devised a plan to do so. It involved sacrificing Himself (Jesus Christ) through taking on flesh (only without sin) and dying for us, then rising from the dead. This supreme sacrifice was to satisfy His own demands for sin’s punishment, so we don’t have to. All He requires of us is to repent and trust. No, He doesn’t demand that we keep a set of rules. He demands unconditional trust and commitment to Him. When we trust His sacrifice for sin, this ultimately brings Him glory. Somehow you are under the impression that “religion” is based on a set of rules, that it brings oppression to people and hinders progress in this world. But that’s not what true religion looks like. Unfortunately, that is what many religious systems look like, but that doesn’t mean that you throw out the truths in Scripture (just because someone uses the Bible to their own ends). Bible truths do not lead to the conclusions that you think they do.
My proposal to everyone is that we let go of these religions. Face the fact that we’re only going to be here for a rather limited time and try our best to get along. Let’s take some advice from the dolphins and learn to just muck about in the water (and on land – there’s one advantage that we do have) having a good time.
Unfortunately, most people follow that advice. They go about life trying to have a good time. And you know what they find in the end? It’s all meaningless. They have no satisfaction and no meaning in life. So they had a good time. At what cost? At the ultimate cost—rebellion against God, only to face His judgment and death—eternal death in hell.
By the way, you need to realize that those who believe the Bible and are trusting in God for forgiveness of sin and eternal life are not walking through life miserable. They have true joy—even in the midst of bad circumstances.
I’d like to conclude by commending you for recognizing numerous biblical truths:
1. Life is short.
2. Apart from God, life is meaningless.
3. Manmade religion is hopeless and no different from no religion at all.
4. Mankind has made a mess of life and apart from God we see anarchy and trouble all around.
5. We need something other than what man comes up with for answers to this life.
Unfortunately, your ideas will never bring satisfaction to you or anyone else. Only God can do that. I pray that you will come to accept the truth that God is the answer to the meaninglessness of this life.
Please go to www.twowaystolive.com and consider the truths presented there.
(note on my note: this is the last time I will be doing this - it's too much of a pain... If you have seomthing to tell everyone, post the comment. Do not worry about upsetting me - say whatever you want. Just remember, this is MY blog ... I can easily delete things...) ;-)
To Diane and Mark (the co-author of the above re-posted email…):
ReplyDeleteThanks for reading my blog. I hope you find the postings a bit interesting but most of all entertaining. I have spent a lot of time writing up my silly little stories and it’s always nice to hear feedback from my small group of readers.
Also, thanks for taking the time to write up an almost perfect example of exactly what I was pointing out in this posting. I could, rather easily, go through your response and demonstrate exactly how you completely missed my point; however all that would turn into would be one more of the far too many pissing contests that seem to always arise on issues such as this.
You believe what you believe and I believe what I believe – neither of us are going to convince the other that they are wrong. (Of course I wonder if that was your goal or if the time and effort required on such an in-depth response was merely a way of further justifying your beliefs to yourself…) And the bottom line here is that I really don’t care … I was merely proposing that we, as human beings, should just learn to get along.
Peace out…
Hey, you forgot to add the part where I said "this was not meant to attack you this was for strictly for debate" (give or take, I trashed the original email I sent you) and you also forgot to say that I wanted you to have the option of posting this or not. To be completely honest I can't remember my username and so I just emailed you. I did not want to post as anonymous but I still can't sign in. Diane
ReplyDeleteI apologize, you are correct. Just to make sure I don’t accidentally leave out anything else, here is the paragraph that I did not post:
ReplyDeleteI'm not sure if you remember who I am or not, I was {edit} in school. I do remember you. Anyway, I wanted to share some responses with you. Know right know that this is strictly written for debate not to attack you personally. I have read your blogs and I felt the need to respond to this one in detail. You can re-post it on your blog if you would like, I didn't for the simple fact that I wanted you to make that decision not me. I talked with a friend of mine, Mark {edit}, and he help with this response. So here goes!
You are absolutely correct in saying that the response clearly categorizes itself as nothing but debate. This, however, doesn’t change my responses. I think the reasoning for this can easily be found (in the last few sentences of paragraph 1) in my latest post.
Please don’t take these responses as personal attacks. I guess you call all this my own little personal attack of religions in general…
(note on my note: this is the last time I will be doing this - it's too much of a pain... If you have seomthing to tell everyone, post the comment. Do not worry about upsetting me - say whatever you want. Just remember, this is MY blog ... I can easily delete things...) ;-)
ReplyDeleteI wanted to respond to this too! So sit down and listen(just kidding).
1. I wasn't worried about upsetting you, I was respecting the fact that this is YOUR blog not mine.
2. I didn't have something to tell "everyone" it's just that your blog really made me sad for you. I have read all of your blogs (I think)and in my opinion you seem to be searching, so I thought I would give you some food for thought.
3. I didn't want to look like I was hiding behind "anonymous".
Well I think the horse is dead, so I will get off it!
Have a great day,
Diane